Understanding how taxes work can be a bit tricky, but it’s important! One common question that pops up is: If a company has made money (that’s a positive Earnings Before Taxes, or EBT), can it still use old tax losses to lower its tax bill? Think of it like this: if you had a bad year in basketball (tax loss), and you then have a great year (positive EBT), can you still use the bad year to your advantage? Let’s explore this question in detail.
The Basics of Tax Losses and EBT
Yes, in many cases, a company with positive EBT can still use accumulated tax losses to reduce its tax liability. It depends on several factors, which we will discuss further.

How Tax Losses Work
When a company has more expenses than income in a year, it has a tax loss. Think of it as owing less to the government because they didn’t make any money. These losses can often be “carried forward” to future years. This means the company can use those past losses to offset future profits, reducing the amount of taxes it has to pay. These past losses are carried forward for a certain amount of years, which is determined by the government.
The idea is to give companies a break. Let’s say a company has a tough year and loses money. The government understands that it is a tough time and lets the company use those losses to reduce taxes in the future.
However, not all losses are treated the same. There are rules about how much of the losses can be used each year. Additionally, there are exceptions, like if the company changes ownership.
Here’s a simple example: A company has a tax loss of $100,000 one year. In the next year, they have a profit (EBT) of $50,000. They can often use some of those previous losses to reduce their taxable income and pay fewer taxes. Let’s assume the company is allowed to use the full loss.
The Impact of Ownership Changes
Sometimes, if a company changes hands (like if it is bought by another company), the rules about using tax losses get more complicated. The government wants to make sure people aren’t just buying struggling companies to use their tax losses. There are rules in place to prevent this, such as limits on how much loss carryforward can be used each year after the ownership change.
When there’s a significant change in ownership, the use of those accumulated tax losses can be restricted. The idea is to prevent someone from buying a company just for its tax losses.
These rules are very complex, and companies need to carefully assess what percentage of loss carryforwards remain available after an ownership change.
There are several factors to consider, including the size of the ownership change and the type of change. The rules usually have to do with:
- The percentage of ownership that changes.
- The period over which the change occurs.
- The types of shareholders involved.
Loss Carryforward Limits
Even without an ownership change, there are often limits on how much of the accumulated tax losses a company can use each year. These limits are in place to balance the benefits provided to companies with the government’s need for tax revenue.
These limits can be a set dollar amount or based on a percentage of the company’s taxable income. Think of it like a cap: you can’t use more than this amount of past losses in any one year.
For example, the government may allow a company to use 80% of their taxable income for loss carryforwards. That means the company must still pay taxes on 20% of the income.
Here’s how that might work: Imagine a company’s taxable income is $100,000. The company also has $50,000 in loss carryforwards. Assuming an 80% limit, the company can use up to $80,000 of the carryforwards, which means they would not have to pay any taxes. The company’s tax burden is reduced.
The Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT)
Some companies are subject to something called the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT). The AMT is a separate way of calculating your taxes. It makes sure that companies that have a lot of tax deductions (like tax losses) still pay a certain minimum amount of tax. The goal is to ensure everyone pays their fair share.
The AMT is a whole separate set of rules, so you will need to be careful. You can’t necessarily use all the tax losses that you might be able to under normal tax rules.
When the AMT applies, the company has to figure out its tax bill both ways—under the normal rules and under the AMT rules—and then pay whichever is higher. If the AMT applies, a company’s ability to use loss carryforwards is often limited.
Here’s a simple explanation of how it works:
- The company calculates its tax liability under normal rules.
- The company calculates its tax liability under AMT rules.
- The company pays the higher of the two amounts.
State Tax Rules
It’s important to remember that the rules for using tax losses can vary from state to state. The federal government has its rules, but each state also has its own tax laws. Some states might follow the federal rules, and others may have different rules about how long you can carry forward losses or if any limits apply.
A company will need to learn the rules in each state where it does business because the rules might be different.
If a company operates in many states, it can get complicated! The company’s tax liability can differ depending on where it does business.
Here’s a quick comparison:
Aspect | Federal | State A | State B |
---|---|---|---|
Loss Carryforward Period | Typically 20 years | 15 years | Unlimited |
Loss Carryforward Limit | 80% of taxable income | No limit | 50% of taxable income |
Seeking Professional Advice
Tax law is complex, and it can be hard to understand all the rules about using tax losses. Companies need to consult with a tax professional (like a CPA) to make sure they’re following the rules and taking full advantage of any available tax benefits.
A tax professional can help with the calculation. It would take a lot of time for an 8th grader to be able to figure out the taxes!
Tax professionals can help you with these things:
- Understanding the laws.
- Planning how to use tax losses.
- Preparing your tax returns.
- Ensuring compliance.
They know all the ins and outs of the tax code, how it works, and how to use the laws. Accountants and tax lawyers can help you save money.
Conclusion
In conclusion, the answer to “Can you still use tax losses when you have positive EBT?” is usually yes, but with a lot of “ifs, ands, and buts.” Companies can often use past tax losses to reduce their tax bill when they have profits, but the specifics depend on things like ownership changes, loss carryforward limits, the AMT, and state tax laws. Navigating these rules can be tricky, so it’s a good idea to seek advice from a tax professional to make sure you’re handling your taxes correctly.